This I can handle!

[Slater]

So what's the deal with Mel Gibsons new movie doing so well?

I thought for sure it would tank after his drunken racial tirade against the Jews and his "sugar teats" comment to the police!

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Slater: So what's the deal with Mel Gibsons new movie doing so well?

I thought for sure it would tank after his drunken racial tirade against the Jews and his "sugar teats" comment to the police!





Apparently, it doesn't matter that Gibson is a foul mouthed lush who dislikes Jews. If he can make a movie with enough beheadings, dismemberments, and ect, it doesn't matter what Gibson does in his off time to most Americans. You can apply this to many peeps, in politics and in entertainment. You can apply this to some locally, but not everyone. Some peeps can't get away with crap.

[Slater]

I liked his movies Braveheart and Patriot, but never saw his latest.

[kat]

so just because Mel got drunk and said some bad things he's bad? Meaning if a person gets drunk one time and says crap that's what he feels like really deep inside? Drinking can bring out the worst in people. I think people made too much of it. If he did it again then I'd say he has a problem. Just like that seinfeld Kramer guy. His last outburst wasn't the first time he bashed black people. I would say he has a problem. did any of that make sense to you?

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Kat: so just because Mel got drunk and said some bad things he's bad? Meaning if a person gets drunk one time and says crap that's what he feels like really deep inside? Drinking can bring out the worst in people. I think people made too much of it. If he did it again then I'd say he has a problem. Just like that seinfeld Kramer guy. His last outburst wasn't the first time he bashed black people. I would say he has a problem. did any of that make sense to you?




You did very well Kat, it made perfect sense.


That wasn't the first time Gibson's been trashed and run his mouth. He's done this several times going back to the 80s. It's up to the individual to make what they will of it. It's typical Mel Gibson as far as I'm concerned.

I think I know why Gibson's movies do so well, even with his behavior problems. It's because I sizable niche see's something in the Message of the Movies as being Anti Hollywood. To a degree, that's true. To me, it's not about Gibson, it's about marketing. Take his new flick. A lot of people are on Gibson's case about how his claiming the Mayans we're responsible for their own demise against the Spaniards. The fact the Mayans fought and killed each is hardly a revelation, humans tend to fight and kill each other. But for some people it's an outrage. For, it's another point of view from the recently political correctness with Native American, Mayans, or whoever.

Now to Micheal Richards(?). I was going to bring that up earlier. But after thinking about it, I was struck by a certain aspect. If Chris Rock would have uttered to the same words to the same people, that would have been funny. Let's say the hecklers would have been white and Cedric The Entertainer would responded with some line like this. "Sit your kracker ass(s) down and get with BubbaJeanJimboBobBillyJohnWillieJoeCooter about which cousin you all are going to bed this weekend and shut your GD mouth(es)"? How much you peeps want to bet Cedric wouldn't have gotten any heat from that? Heck no, people would be at that. It could have been worse, the people Richards jumped all over could have been Polish.

Hey Whitie, how's this living in a black man's world tickling you?

[kat]

I knew gibson had a drinking problem a while back but never heard about earlier out bursts. Maybe he really does feel that way about Jews. I'm usually willing to give someone the benefit of the doubt first time around.

and you're right. some people such as comedians can get away with making outrageous statements. And it would be funny in the right setting such as a club. So what happened with Kramer when the hecklers started in on him and he wasn't able to disfuse the problem? I only heard a small portion.

[Slater]

I guess Richards flipped out, I heard the uncensored version in an email from someone; he just kept yelling out, angrily, the "N" word over and over!

He wasn't drunk, he was obviously upset that they were supposedly heckling him, I don't think it bears resemblance to a Chris Rock act or anything like it.

But the man did apologize, it's not happened before and hasn't happened since, so I say we give him a pass.

Of course the men in the audience have filed suit and want money. Money for what? Did they get their feelings hurt so bad that they can't work? I don't get it.

If you are physically hurt, yes by all means you have a case (being very general here), but words cannot hurt you physically (generally speaking again).

If I went into a white club and a black comedian start calling me names (cracker or slave owner, things like that), I might be offended but am I going to seek compensation for my hurt feelings? No.

I think the U.S. today is quick to sue, and the lawyers will do anything (making the Richards case a civil rights abuse case) to make someone pay.

What if Richards had no money? Would they sue, or ?

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Kat: I knew gibson had a drinking problem a while back but never heard about earlier out bursts. Maybe he really does feel that way about Jews. I'm usually willing to give someone the benefit of the doubt first time around.

and you're right. some people such as comedians can get away with making outrageous statements. And it would be funny in the right setting such as a club. So what happened with Kramer when the hecklers started in on him and he wasn't able to disfuse the problem? I only heard a small portion.




Again, you did great Kat.

Yes, Gibson's been a hellraiser from way back. Let me temper my opinion before I go to much further. From a human point of view, no one is perfect. It's not my intent to say Mel Gibson is a bad person. It's really not my place to say that.

That said, Gibson is lucky his behavior hasn't ruined his career. But Mel is hardly by himself. Look at Anna Nicole Smith. This woman makes it her mission to go off the deep end in public. What's worse for her, she can't dismiss her weird behavior to being drunk or whatever. Look at Micheal Jackson, who working on a new album. I don't know, Jackson may be that played out today. But even it would have sold trillions 20 years ago, in spite of Jackson's activities with Kids.

Some people say Gibson get's picked on because he's supposedly a conservative. Now Gibson may be conservative by Hollywood standards, but so is Karl Marx. Gibson isn't a conservative by my standards, more left of center.

I'm going to comment in the Mike Richards situation down below in response to Slater.

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Slater: I guess Richards flipped out, I heard the uncensored version in an email from someone; he just kept yelling out, angrily, the "N" word over and over!

He wasn't drunk, he was obviously upset that they were supposedly heckling him, I don't think it bears resemblance to a Chris Rock act or anything like it.

But the man did apologize, it's not happened before and hasn't happened since, so I say we give him a pass.

Of course the men in the audience have filed suit and want money. Money for what? Did they get their feelings hurt so bad that they can't work? I don't get it.

If you are physically hurt, yes by all means you have a case (being very general here), but words cannot hurt you physically (generally speaking again).

If I went into a white club and a black comedian start calling me names (cracker or slave owner, things like that), I might be offended but am I going to seek compensation for my hurt feelings? No.

I think the U.S. today is quick to sue, and the lawyers will do anything (making the Richards case a civil rights abuse case) to make someone pay.

What if Richards had no money? Would they sue, or ?





You mean to tell me that the hecklers are suing Richards? Jesus H Christ in a Big Benz, You have to be fu, uh, friggin kidding me? What's to stop Richards from suing the hecklers? Holy Capt Kangaroo throwing kittens off the mountain tops peeps, this is wack! Slater, I cannot agree more with your comments about a sue happy America. And people wonder why shi, uh, stuff costs so much. People wonder why insurance is so high. I thank God every day for trial lawyers, don't you?


About Richards, his biggest mistake had nothing to do with race here. Richard's biggest and most costly mistake was losing it due to those guys heckling him. That's a big no no in the comedy world. Richards may have more public scorn from the race aspect, but losing it like he did to unprofessionals will cost him in more ways than one. I can already imagine the comedy skits we'll all be treated too by other comics sending up Richard's meltdown. Richards has fallen about 10 floors down in the comedy highrise.


To answer your question, if Richards had no money, there'd be no lawsuit. I doubt the hecklers could find a lawyer to take the case if Richards didn't have money.