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Nancy
Feb 23, 2008 7:52:29 GMT -5
Post by Steady Micro Aggressor on Feb 23, 2008 7:52:29 GMT -5
I would ask both sides here to not fight in this thread. We have tens of other threads to fight in located at several forums. Slater, and wtf, please don't post attacks at nancy in this thread. Nancy, IF you respond, don't post any attacks at Slater, wtf, and that side. Please indulge me, this will be one thread I will be a control freak in, I'll weed out all attacks in this thread, unless it's at me. Yes, even Mitey Whitey is off limits in this thread.
Okay, Nancy. You posted something at Moo's board I've trying to tell you for several years. You come to the the net for the same reason the rest of us do, a release. Your issue is You care too much about what people think about your net behavior. I understand net friends, even family have given you grief about some of the scuffles you've gotten into over the years. You may not believe this, but i do sympathize whith your situation. I can't even begin to imagine how you feel having to face what you do everyday. It's bound to take on toll on you, and we see the manifestations of that in forums. Guess what? You aren't doing a damn thing wrong. I don't approve of trashing other people families, but I understand the emotion that can make a person do that. You're right, not all of that anger that poured out of you was solely flamed by wtf or Slater. It may be more healthy than either of us know.
What's the point here? I told you once before you have the same dark sinister side we all do, and you didn't like that. Welp, ummmm, you have it in you. To a certain degree, I was impressed. Okay so you have it. Don't give a crap about what anyone else thinks about it. As far as your cyber mates, who cares? You don't even know if they are who they say they are, and I don't say that to be a smartass. As far as your real life friends, they don't walk in your shoes and have no right to tell you have to act online. It's the internet for pete's sake. As far as your kids, you've already raised them, they can raise their own and leave you to coping with what you face in life the best way you can. I totally agree, it's alot better than breaking dishes. You can rip me a new bum anytime you'd like, in e mail or public. I wouldn't be the least offended. In a way I'd feel useful, and I don't say that to be a smartass either. Once you don't care what other people think about your net dysfunction, you won't care about net dysfunction period.
Why should you even listen to me? I'll put my five years of interaction with you up against anyone elses. Think about that.
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Nancy
Feb 23, 2008 9:30:50 GMT -5
Post by Nancy on Feb 23, 2008 9:30:50 GMT -5
Thank you, and I will think about everything you said, for I don't believe you said it with any malice. But I do have one important question to ask you. WHY when my husband was talked about so horribly in this forum, WHY didn't you delete it? I thought families were off limits. To watch my husband slowly die, it horrific, then to come on this board that belongs to who I considered a friend for years, and you allowed horrible things that were said to stand?
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Nancy
Feb 23, 2008 9:52:50 GMT -5
Post by Nancy on Feb 23, 2008 9:52:50 GMT -5
Thank you, and I will think about everything you said, for I don't believe you said it with any malice. But I do have one important question to ask you. WHY when my husband was talked about so horribly in this forum, WHY didn't you delete it? I thought families were off limits. To watch my husband slowly die, it horrific, then to come on this board that belongs to who I considered a friend for years, and you allowed horrible things that were said to stand? One more thing, yes, you are right, I do take my friends and families opinions into consideration, but how I feel about "myself", is ultimately the bottom line. As I have told you, I am sure many times, I fight with NOONE in my day to day life, people think of me has a very strong happy go lucky person, and I like to think of myself like that too. So you say its "OK" to act horrible on the net? Maybe it does serve a purpose in getting the anger out as far as my husbands lack of health goes. But in the end DA, no, I feel like chit about talking trash to other people, even if it is JUST on the net, even if those people are the lowest denominater out there. For I have to live with myself, and right now I feel very ashamed. I guess thats just how I am built, and I don't see me changing too much in the future at my age. lol
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Nancy
Feb 23, 2008 9:55:49 GMT -5
Post by Steady Micro Aggressor on Feb 23, 2008 9:55:49 GMT -5
That's a fair question Nancy. I didn't delete that for the same reason I'm not deleting the attacks on wtf's family. That reason would be this.
Quoted from the rules thread in the Forum Info section, last revised 07-07
"We had a list of rules posted, but an admin at another forum made a good point. His point was Posting rules only serves to give trolls a target. Good point, so here's the deal. I'm assuming that we are all adults. I'm assuming that we all know how to act in public. I also assume that if an adult doesn't know how to act like a human, there isn't too much anyone can do for them in a forum.
Police yourselves people. If Free Speech and expression means anything to you, you'll be responsible with your first amendment right. In other words, it's going to be up to you to make this these forums work. Everyone has access to an important tool to help keep up with who's who. All Members can see SIPs. That way, no one has to rely on the Mods to see who's who, or who's using a proxie or whatever."
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Nancy
Feb 23, 2008 10:01:49 GMT -5
Post by Steady Micro Aggressor on Feb 23, 2008 10:01:49 GMT -5
I'm not saying it's "okay" to post anything, i simply realize and accept my limitations in being able to stop it. It would have been posted elsewhere. Second, it's just the net. There's no use to feel ashamed for doing something every single one of us has done in the past. I said bad things about OTP's family back when we flamed. I shouldn't have, but I've allowed net BS get the best of me too. Nobody is perfect.
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Nancy
Feb 23, 2008 11:51:07 GMT -5
Post by Nancy on Feb 23, 2008 11:51:07 GMT -5
I ranked HER family? That is sumply untrue, not until the nasty attacks on my husband continued THEN I fought fire with fire. No, I am saying when it was first made public about my husband condition THAT is when he started saying horrible things, THOSE attacks should have been deleted PERIOD! I don't give a fig about freedom speech that you people keep hiding behind, I am talking about "human decency".. SOME people simly do NOT have any! You could have squelched this in the beginning DA, but you love a good flame.. Thats pretty much what this board of yours is about and you know it. I see you try to veer it towards politics but the regs in this forum care more about fighting. THATS THE TRUTH. So give 'em what they what hey "Caesar? Most every one I know would have reported your forum for the rank things that were being said, but I chose not to, I figured it being YOUR forum, you might have the decency to step in and put a stop to it. NO, Billy Kess finally had to come and do what you were unable to do. And I don't care what you say DA.. "fighting" in this forum is GOOD for YOUR business, and you do NOT care at who's expense. That is why I say you are no longer my friend. You are not worthy of my loyalty any longer. Shame on you!! I take responsibility for my actions its high time you took some too. And now you and your band of Jackels can hoot up a storm at my words, just gives you more drama huh? Have at it, I hope I made your day...:)
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Nancy
Feb 23, 2008 12:02:38 GMT -5
Post by Nancy on Feb 23, 2008 12:02:38 GMT -5
I realize now, that your "attempt" to talk to me this morning was nothing more than to get people over here, I guess the numbers were slowing down for you huh? Well and so I "bit".. You know DA, there was a time I thought you were a "stand up guy" I no longer think that. I don't know WHO you are, if your black, white or purple, young or old man or woman, but what I DO know for SURE, I have no longer have ANY respect for you!
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Nancy
Feb 23, 2008 20:34:58 GMT -5
Post by Steady Micro Aggressor on Feb 23, 2008 20:34:58 GMT -5
Gee Wiz, why even try? (sighs).
I'll get back to this later. Everyone else PLEASE stay out of this. As a personal favor, stay out of this. Please indulge me here.
Nancy, you are so wrong and I'll explain why later.
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Nancy
Feb 23, 2008 22:15:25 GMT -5
Post by Nancy on Feb 23, 2008 22:15:25 GMT -5
Gee Wiz, why even try? (sighs). I'll get back to this later. Everyone else PLEASE stay out of this. As a personal favor, stay out of this. Please indulge me here. Nancy, you are so wrong and I'll explain why later. Ok, let me make it simple for you.. You say the reason you didn't remove the horrible things said about my husband is because you felt like, "hey it was just going to be said in another forum"...You don't see anything wrong with that kind of resoning?? I thought your policy has always been to "leave" family members out of this forum?! My husband has never posted here, I never posted my husbands condition of late in this forum if my memory serves me correctly. AGAIN you say how I brought wtfs family into this, she says I ATTACKED HER SON and HOW HURT SHE WAS...OMG..lol.. How many damn times do I have to explain to you and everyone else what exactly was said? OH SHE WAS SOO HURT that she had to in turn "get back at me" by divulging what I had told her in an email about his health.. when if fact ALL I SAID.. now everyone please read this slowly because this is the last damn time I am going to say it..Chuck repeatedly asked me if my sons served in Iraq.. I repeatedly said I didn't care to discuss my sons lives in a online forum. TO WHICH HE POSTED..."wtf ask nancy if her sons served in iraq".. I REPLIED "chuck instead of asking wtf about MY sons, why don't you instead ask her about HERS".. NOW even a simpleton can figure out what I meant by that DA.. I figured wtf knew HER sons better than mine, so if she wants to talk about "sons" she can talk about HERS. THEN I get this horsechit that I "attacked her sick son".. OMG DA, you aren't stupid, please come on now.. Do you really think that is what I was saying? Do you think wtf had the right then to start talking about my husband dying etc?.. THEN slater comes on here and loves hearing this and he goes on an on about my husband dying. . NOW as the owner of this forum DA, THIS is when you should have stepped in and said.."NO TALKING ABOUT FAMILY MEMBERS". but you say to this.. "well you brought up wtfs family first" or some such crap.. ARE YOU HEARING ME HERE? Do you see why I am disgusted with you?.. I know you read WWs forum I KNOW YOU read what I said to Chuck. and I KNOW you saw what wtf said in rebuttal about Ed..AGAIN, I realize you are not my damn babysitter.. I realize you are NOT my "daddy".. sweet jesus.. I realize you keep saying "its just the net folks". but listen .. These may be just typed words on a screen, I don't know about anyone else but the person who is behind these words is a feeling person. what the hell are the rest of you made of CONCRETE?.. I shouldn't care so much people say? WHEN A PERSON STOPS CARING ABOUT THIER FELLOW MAN THAT IS WHEN HE BECOMES A SOCIOPATH. and I do believe you have one or two posting in your forum. I hope you are proud how you have aided and abided them.. AGAIN SHAME ON YOU.. I thought better of you... AND YES, then I came down into the gutter with them.. I tried to ignore them .. but when cowards run in a pack like they do. they don't give up til they see blood... SO I stood my ground and fought back. they can crow all they want about how they beat me. but LOL I strongly disagree.. all 3 of them then they had to bring in a 4th..Cowards one and all. none of them have the moxy I have in my one finger... BUT unlike them, when all is said and done.. no, I don't like to fight dirty, but its the only things animals like that understand.. !
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Nancy
Feb 23, 2008 22:42:06 GMT -5
Post by Nancy on Feb 23, 2008 22:42:06 GMT -5
And I really would like this to die down. I will refrain from saying anything more to or about your friends on this board. I would appreciate it if they would stop with the harrasment towards me and my husband. Thank you..
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Nancy
Feb 24, 2008 0:48:54 GMT -5
Post by Steady Micro Aggressor on Feb 24, 2008 0:48:54 GMT -5
Nancy, I've already told you the reason. "We had a list of rules posted, but an admin at another forum made a good point. His point was Posting rules only serves to give trolls a target. Good point, so here's the deal. I'm assuming that we are all adults. I'm assuming that we all know how to act in public. I also assume that if an adult doesn't know how to act like a human, there isn't too much anyone can do for them in a forum." Family members are off limits, for me. I don't go after people's family members. Why just for me? I'm the only person I can control, and sometime I screw that up. I did say talking about family memebers was stupid. several times. Hell, you even thanked me for it. My and Slater's association was strained some because of that. Gosh Nancy, you make it out as though I encouraged it. By your definition, I'm cyber sociapath. I admit it. I have to be to fit in. Me and you were both cordial with Chuck, and he went after other people's family memebers all the time. Me and you both know that nobody is going to stop Chuck from being Chuck. You best be made of concrete in these forums. Why? Because that fellow behind that keyboard might be who he says he is, or she might not. I have not aided and abetted anyone. In fact, if I'm being unfair to anyone, it's wtf. I left your attacks at her family in public view. I haven't deleted them, or moved them to the Trash Bin. Neither has she. She had every right to do so. You feel like I aid Slater becuse I didn't join your Slater is everyone bandwagon? There's some IP evidence to indicate that Slater and BiggDogg are the same person. There is similar IP evidence to indicate that me and Pope Urban are the same person. Have I made my point? Nancy, you are running with a pack. It's just your case, unfortunately, your fellow pack member(s) don't have the guts to handle it direct like I do, and like you do. That makes me question the motives of whoever is advising you. I like a good flame? You're right, I do. But this isn't a good flame. My and Chucks exchanges over at WW's was a good flame. In your case, we aren't flaming. I have no issue with you telling me your side of it. Finally, you really overestimate the stake I put in the fortunes of this forum. I have half a mind to close this forum for about a week, and RO and Moo can deal with this crap. I'm starting to understand why WW said the hell with it. I've said before, I don't have to start drama around here, it's inevitable. Nor does my life revolve around this forum. If it did I would consistantly buy ad free credit. If you would at least try to understand the point I'm making, it will die down. wtf has lightened up about all this, I have to give her that due. You seem to want to lighten up about all this, but then you start quoting Pope and get back into the rut of being weak. You weakness is allowing letters on a keyboard to cause you to go off the deep end. Nothing that is said here, or anywhere else on the net is going to matter one bit in the grand scheme of things with Ed. I take you at face value that you were hurt. But why waste the emotion on something that really doesn't matter? The one legitimate answer would be a release. I couldn't begrudge that. Some might, but we live and learn and co exist within each other's boundries and limits, I hope anyway. Hmmmm, 8 paragraphs??? I think this qualifies as a meltdown. Oh well, I guess she got me.
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Nancy
Feb 24, 2008 1:27:11 GMT -5
Post by Nancy on Feb 24, 2008 1:27:11 GMT -5
Nancy, I've already told you the reason. "We had a list of rules posted, but an admin at another forum made a good point. His point was Posting rules only serves to give trolls a target. Good point, so here's the deal. I'm assuming that we are all adults. I'm assuming that we all know how to act in public. I also assume that if an adult doesn't know how to act like a human, there isn't too much anyone can do for them in a forum." Family members are off limits, for me. I don't go after people's family members. Why just for me? I'm the only person I can control, and sometime I screw that up. I did say talking about family memebers was stupid. several times. Hell, you even thanked me for it. My and Slater's association was strained some because of that. Gosh Nancy, you make it out as though I encouraged it. By your definition, I'm cyber sociapath. I admit it. I have to be to fit in. Me and you were both cordial with Chuck, and he went after other people's family memebers all the time. Me and you both know that nobody is going to stop Chuck from being Chuck. You best be made of concrete in these forums. Why? Because that fellow behind that keyboard might be who he says he is, or she might not. I have not aided and abetted anyone. In fact, if I'm being unfair to anyone, it's wtf. I left your attacks at her family in public view. I haven't deleted them, or moved them to the Trash Bin. Neither has she. She had every right to do so. You feel like I aid Slater becuse I didn't join your Slater is everyone bandwagon? There's some IP evidence to indicate that Slater and BiggDogg are the same person. There is similar IP evidence to indicate that me and Pope Urban are the same person. Have I made my point? Nancy, you are running with a pack. It's just your case, unfortunately, your fellow pack member(s) don't have the guts to handle it direct like I do, and like you do. That makes me question the motives of whoever is advising you. I like a good flame? You're right, I do. But this isn't a good flame. My and Chucks exchanges over at WW's was a good flame. In your case, we aren't flaming. I have no issue with you telling me your side of it. Finally, you really overestimate the stake I put in the fortunes of this forum. I have half a mind to close this forum for about a week, and RO and Moo can deal with this crap. I'm starting to understand why WW said the hell with it. I've said before, I don't have to start drama around here, it's inevitable. Nor does my life revolve around this forum. If it did I would consistantly buy ad free credit. If you would at least try to understand the point I'm making, it will die down. wtf has lightened up about all this, I have to give her that due. You seem to want to lighten up about all this, but then you start quoting Pope and get back into the rut of being weak. You weakness is allowing letters on a keyboard to cause you to go off the deep end. Nothing that is said here, or anywhere else on the net is going to matter one bit in the grand scheme of things with Ed. I take you at face value that you were hurt. But why waste the emotion on something that really doesn't matter? The one legitimate answer would be a release. I couldn't begrudge that. Some might, but we live and learn and co exist within each other's boundries and limits, I hope anyway. Hmmmm, 8 paragraphs??? I think this qualifies as a meltdown. Oh well, I guess she got me. Yes, I think closing this forum for a while would be great for your mental health.. not to mention Mine..lol
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Nancy
Feb 24, 2008 1:32:05 GMT -5
Post by Steady Micro Aggressor on Feb 24, 2008 1:32:05 GMT -5
Nancy: Yes, I think closing this forum for a while would be great for your mental health.. not to mention Mine..lol My mental health? Yeah right! Nah, it wouldn't be good for our mental health because then we'd have nowhere to release the frustrations of real life. It would in fact, be a sacrifice.
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Nancy
Feb 24, 2008 1:59:05 GMT -5
Post by nancy on Feb 24, 2008 1:59:05 GMT -5
One thing I don't put up with here is stealing monikers. The nick "Nancy" is taken, you'll have to use another nick. I don't mind you telling me to "piss off", I did say attacks towards me were okay. You just have to use another moniker.
Thank You
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Nancy
Feb 24, 2008 9:48:11 GMT -5
Post by Nancy on Feb 24, 2008 9:48:11 GMT -5
Someone was trying to clone me? I see they carried that one post I made to you back over to Moos. Thank you for setting them straight!
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